Wednesday, October 31, 2018

Zephaniah’s Sardonic Siren Song: Part 3

Why have I mentioned aliens? Because the ancients said their gods visited them from the sky and even were intimate with them.

Giants; the word conjures up fantastical, mythological and fairy tale like images of beings that have long passed and are but dust beneath the earth. Today we see basketball players or professional wrestlers of unusual height, or we thumb through the Guinness Book of World Records and see photos of people of staggering stature, making anyone alongside them look like an action figure! Honestly, even seeing all the “giants” photographed throughout history, and using my imagination to envision giants decked out for mortal combat, I don’t really think I’d be too afraid. Their super tall, so what!? Sound to me like they would be slow, clumsy, and maybe even stupid too! Actually, being small and agile, Israel would have an upper hand. So why was Israel so afraid of these giants?

Moses here recaps the story of their parents who had the opportunity to take the land the first time but chickened out:

Deuteronomy 1:21-45 Behold, the LORD thy God hath set the land before thee: go up and possess it, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath said unto thee; fear not, neither be discouraged. And ye came near unto me every one of you, and said, We will send men before us, and they shall search us out the land, and bring us word again by what way we must go up, and into what cities we shall come. And the saying pleased me well: and I took twelve men of you, one of a tribe: And they turned and went up into the mountain, and came unto the valley of Eshcol, and searched it out. And they took of the fruit of the land in their hands, and brought it down unto us, and brought us word again, and said, It is a good land which the LORD our God doth give us. Notwithstanding ye would not go up, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD your God: And ye murmured in your tents, and said, Because the LORD hated us, he hath brought us forth out of the land of Egypt, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us. Whither shall we go up? our brethren have discouraged our heart, saying, The people is greater and taller than we; the cities are great and walled up to heaven; and moreover we have seen the sons of the Anakims there. Then I said unto you, Dread not, neither be afraid of them. The LORD your God which goeth before you, he shall fight for you, according to all that he did for you in Egypt before your eyes; And in the wilderness, where thou hast seen how that the LORD thy God bare thee, as a man doth bear his son, in all the way that ye went, until ye came into this place. Yet in this thing ye did not believe the LORD your God, Who went in the way before you, to search you out a place to pitch your tents in, in fire by night, to shew you by what way ye should go, and in a cloud by day. And the LORD heard the voice of your words, and was wroth, and sware, saying, Surely there shall not one of these men of this evil generation see that good land, which I sware to give unto your fathers. Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh; he shall see it, and to him will I give the land that he hath trodden upon, and to his children, because he hath wholly followed the LORD. Also the LORD was angry with me for your sakes, saying, Thou also shalt not go in thither. But Joshua the son of Nun, which standeth before thee, he shall go in thither: encourage him: for he shall cause Israel to inherit it. Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it. But as for you, turn you, and take your journey into the wilderness by the way of the Red sea. Then ye answered and said unto me, We have sinned against the LORD, we will go up and fight, according to all that the LORD our God commanded us. And when ye had girded on every man his weapons of war, ye were ready to go up into the hill. And the LORD said unto me, Say unto them. Go not up, neither fight; for I am not among you; lest ye be smitten before your enemies. So I spake unto you; and ye would not hear, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD, and went presumptuously up into the hill. And the Amorites, which dwelt in that mountain, came out against you, and chased you, as bees do, and destroyed you in Seir, even unto Hormah. And ye returned and wept before the LORD; but the LORD would not hearken to your voice, nor give ear unto you.

Here Moses uses examples of their cousins, who did not have the favor of God as they did, took on these giants and took their land to boot!

Deuteronomy 2:10-22The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims. The Horims also dwelt in Seir beforetime; but the children of Esau succeeded them, when they had destroyed them from before them, and dwelt in their stead; as Israel did unto the land of his possession, which the LORD gave unto them. And when thou comest nigh over against the children of Ammon, distress them not, nor meddle with them: for I will not give thee of the land of the children of Ammon any possession; because I have given it unto the children of Lot for a possession. (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims; A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead: As he did to the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, when he destroyed the Horims from before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead even unto this day:

Moses describes for us the impressive height of Og King of Bashan, and hints at his massive weight that required an iron bed to hold him:

Deuteronomy 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

So why did Moses use examples of their rebellious cousins; the children of Esau, Moab and Ammon, who conquered some of these giants to occupy the land they have now, as a pep talk to encourage the Israelis to take the land? Sounds to me like these giants were more than just tall. And indeed according to Scripture, tradition and legend they were. These giants were the stuff that legends and myths are made of.

Here is our first encounter with these giants:

Genesis 6:1-4 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The word “Giant” Nephilim in Hebrew carries a double meaning. It means, Giant, yes, but it also means, “Fallen Ones”.

Most Christians in this enlightened age of today would scoff at even the suggestion that fallen angels could possibly have cohabitated with the daughters of men. Yet this was the original meaning and intent of this very passage. Only in the modern centuries have man tried to explain this away as the wicked daughters of Cain seducing and marrying the righteous sons of Seth. Horse Pucky! Every instance in the Tanak when the phrase “sons of God” is used it is used in direct reference to the angelic race, and it is obvious that the daughters of men is mortal women.

Indeed, this is one of the reasons why God deemed the flood necessary, not just because of the wicked ways of mankind, but because the fallen angels were impregnating the human women in an effort to thwart the prophecy of the Messiah coming:

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This fact is backed up again and again in Midrashic, Talmudic, Kabalistic, and Rabbinical literature.

Deuteronomy 1:28 Whither shall we go up? our brethren have discouraged our heart, saying, The people is greater and taller than we; the cities are great and walled up to heaven; and moreover we have seen the sons of the Anakims there.

According to Rashi the descendants of Shamchazi and Azael, who fell from heaven in the generation of Enosh.

“The Chassidic masters explain that the generation of the Spies was loath to enter the Land because they feared the transition from the spiritual life they led in the desert (where they were sustained by "bread from heaven" and all their physical needs were provided by miraculous means, and their sole occupation was the study of Torah and the service of G-d) to a life on the land and all the material entanglements this brings.

This explains the Spies' mention of the "sons of the giants" they encountered in the Land. The Midrash (Yalkut Shimoni, Bereishit 44) relates the story of these "fallen angels": In the years before the Flood, when violence and promiscuity pervaded the earth, two angels, Shamchazi and Azael, pleaded before the Almighty: Allow us to dwell among the humans, and we shall sanctify your name! But no sooner had the two heavenly beings come in contact with the material world, they, too, were corrupted.

If these heavenly beings -- the Spies were saying -- could not survive the plunge to materiality, what could be expected of us, mortal and fragile men?” – The Lubavitcher Rebbe

If Satan through his fallen angels could pollute the human seed, then there would be no pure untainted human seed for the Messiah to come through. Thus is another reason for the flood and for Noach (Noah) and his family being spared. This is where the legends of the giants, and mythological type beings came from that Rome is so famous for speaking of. I believe this to be the modern explanation of the UFO and Alien phenomenon. Think about it, same ol’ plan, different package. Human women are abducted; they are impregnated and then re-abducted to extract the hybrid child, and many of them are shown their prodigy. There is no proof that these beings come from another planet, But the there is evidence leaning toward them coming from another dimension. Plus, if these “alien” give a message for mankind, it is usually a humanistic or new age message that belittles Messiah and His word and puts Him on the level of other world religions. Also the same paranormal activity that takes place during a poltergeist is the same type of things that happen when “aliens” and their craft are present. This sounds like Nephilim to me.

Tuesday, October 30, 2018

Zephaniah’s Sardonic Siren Song 1:5

5 And them that worship the host of heaven upon the housetops; and them that worship and that swear by the LORD, and that swear by Malcham; 6 And them that are turned back from the LORD; and those that have not sought the LORD, nor enquired for him.

Angel worship (Deut. 4:19), alien worship, living one’s life by astrological calculations and horoscope divinations, what once was old has now become new all this was prevalent in Zephaniah’s time, and it still hear today but in a supped-up package. It says that people who do this will swear by the LORD, such as the pop-culture media spiritual mediums.

Matt. 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.

To use an old analogy; if you take a pile of crap, spray it with perfume, gift wrap it, put it in a pretty box with an iridescent curly bow, it’s still just a pile of crap. This is no different with the western Christian holidays such as Christmas and Easter, or Catholics pantheon of saints, or their altars and many of their ritual objects. They are nothing but old pagan Babylonian and Roman things with a quick paint job and a name change.

Below is a section of the 613 commandments (mitzvot) of Torah regarding anyone attempting to make something pagan, “holy (set-apart)” unto the God of Israel.

Deuteronomy 16:22 "Do not erect a pillar" A pillar is a structure usually built for idol-worship. We are not allowed to construct a pillar even if we intend to serve God with it. (These were ancient phallic symbols. You cannot redeem that which is pagan)

Leviticus 26:1 "Nor shall you install a kneeling stone in your land, to bow down upon it" Idol-worshipers often placed a special decorated stone before their idol and then use it to kneel upon while they prayed to their idols. We are forbidden to have such a stone, even if we intend to worship God on it. (Any one for substantiation crackers and Jesus juice? Again, You cannot redeem that which is of pagan origin)

Deuteronomy 16:21 "Do not plant for yourself an Asherah of any tree near the altar of the Lord thy God" The "Asherah" is a tree that is planted near the house of idol- worship in order to make the area more beautiful. The Torah wants our service of GOD to be holy and special. It should, in no way, resemble any form of paganistic idol-worship. For this reason there were no trees planted on the Temple Mount. (Again, usually representory of a phallus)

Deuteronomy 12:2 "And destroy all those places" God does not want the Jewish people to worship idols. He wants us to remove them from our presence and totally destroy them. We are commanded to destroy all those places where idols are worshiped: Then Land of Israel is a holy land. And so, special efforts must be made to clear it of idol worship entirely (If we are Torah Observant believers our homes are like a little slice of Israel. Anyone for a Ojai board, a Buddha statue and those idols disguised as souvenirs you got from Africa or Hawaii burning party?)

Deuteronomy 7:26 "Do not bring any offensive idol into your house" We are not allowed to derive benefit from any type of idol- worship. We must stay far removed from its practice, its places of worship and everything connected to it. (If you’re coming out of paganism, don’t donate or sell your old X-mas, Easter or Halloween costumes and decorations. Just burn or chuck’em in the trash.)

Deuteronomy 7:25 "Do not desire the silver or the gold that is on them" We are not allowed to make use of, or benefit from, valuables that once decorated statues or idols.

Leviticus 20:23 "You shall not walk in the practices of the nation" In this Negative Commandment, the Torah cautions us not to adopt or imitate non-Jewish, pagan customs and traditions. (For example: Don’t participate in Easter egg hunts, or Trick-or-treating. We are God’s people, we have plenty of Holidays 10x’s better than the pagan worlds and they are real and not fairy tales)

Exd 19:5-6 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine: And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These [are] the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Deut. 7:6 For thou [art] an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that [are] upon the face of the earth.

Deut. 14:2 For thou [art] an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that [are] upon the earth.

Deut. 26:18-19 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that [thou] shouldest keep all his commandments; And to make thee high above all nations which he hath made, in praise, and in name, and in honour; and that thou mayest be an holy people unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.

Deut. 28:9 The LORD shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways.

Titus 2:14-15 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

1 Peter 2:9,10 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past [were] not a people, but [are] now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

It is abundantly clear that we are a holy, set-apart, unique people, and original that should not and cannot be imitated. So to speak, we are the ones who set the trends, not the ones who follow them.

Be proud; stand tall because God has called you to be different. Sure your get looks and stares and even ridicule, but these are complements in disguise!

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Matt. 5:11-12 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Rom. 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.


Rom. 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

We cannot redeem that which is pagan… But why would we want to anyway!?

Monday, October 29, 2018

Zephaniah’s Sardonic Siren Song 1:1-4


Zephaniah, whose name means “YHWH has hidden” and perhaps was chosen to deliver this prophecy because he speaks of a “hidden remnant” that remains safe during the dreaded and awesome “Day of the LORD.” He has the longest recorded linage of any other prophet; He was the great-great grandson of King Hezekiah, who was one of Judah’s righteous kings. Which also meant he was related to righteous king Josiah and there fire had access to the king and may have been very influential in his righteous reform. He was contemporary of Nahum, Habakkuk and Jeremiah. Oddly enough, outside of the book that bears his name, he is not mentioned in the books of Kings or Chronicles or elsewhere in the entirety of the Tanak; although Yeshua may have alluded to him, because Matthew 13:40-42; 24:9 sounds a lot like Zeph. 1:2-3.

Zephaniah prophesied around the same time as Jeremiah (630 BCE) and was most likely around during Josiah’s reign (640-608 BCE) and his reforms (631-621 BCE) which are recorded in II Chron. 34:3-35:19. Unfortunately Josiah was the last of the righteous and godly kings.

With the context and time frame of Zephaniah’s words that this prophecy was the most likely before Josiah’s reform because many passages sound much like the condemnation of the sins of the wickedly evil King Manasseh and Amon led Israel into and were still present as he prophesied. Josiah attempted to erase the sins of his aforementioned predecessors in 627 BCE, the 12th year of Josiah’s reign, which eventually ended up in a revival because while cleansing Solomon’s Temple, a copy of the Torah was found. ALL revivals in Scripture, if one properly studies it will find out it is a direct result of people rededicating themselves to follow and keep the Torah. Another reason 630 BCE is most likely the date of this writing of Zephaniah is due to there being no mention of Babylon as a super power. The only hint of Babylon in this book is the prophesied destruction of Assyria in which the book of Nahum divulges great detail and names Babylon as its conqueror.

For being such a short book, there is much to consider eschatologically when reading Zephaniah, especially in regards to the “Day of the LORD” when the wicked will be judged and the righteous saved and so there are many passages from Hosea, Amos, Habakkuk and the Brit Chadasha (New Testament/Renewed Covenant) that can be called to mind, paralleled and compared with this book. The main message was to warn Judah and Jerusalem of impending judgment but also prophetically warn is Philistia, Moab and Amon (the latter two are distant relatives, but enemies of Israel through Lot), Cush and Assyria.

I have entitled this commentary “Zephaniah’s Sardonic Siren Song” because Zephaniah’s words are a prophetic poetic warning, like an air raid siren, warning Judah and surrounding Gentile nations to repent.


Zephaniah 1:1 The word of the LORD which came unto Zephaniah the son of Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of Hizkiah, in the days of Josiah the son of Amon, king of Judah.

As stated in the introduction, Zephaniah is the great-great-grandson of the righteous King Hezekiah, and is most likely a cousin to Josiah. It is said by Radak that Jeremiah prophesied in the public marketplaces and Zephaniah prophesied in the synagogues to the women in Huldah (II Kings 22:14).

2 I will utterly consume all things from off the land, saith the LORD.

“It will be the end (of the world) when I take away all things from the face of the earth (by a consuming fire).” This is my personal rendering of this verse; the parenthesis is my own added emphasis. If the original text does not say “fire” how do I know this to be true? Because the first time around God wiped the face of the earth clean through flood waters. The Torah tells us if we see something with a blight that we first attempt to wash it with water and if it comes back you must burn it (Lev. 13:47-59). What The LORD wiped clean on this earth was the sin and it has come back and so now the Earth will be cleansed and purged by Fire according to Yeshua’s Talmid, Kefa (II Peter 3:10,12) and alluded to by Yochannon (Rev. 21:1-2).

God’s time table, His reckoning of time is so different from ours. Ours is linear, a marking and a progression of time; past, present and future. God’s however is above the confines of linear time, He is above it and sees the “big picture” and thus everything, as I call it, to Him, is an “eternal now.”

II Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

My point is approximately 3000 years ago through Zephaniah the end of the world was prophesied. 2000 years ago with Yochannon (John) the Revelator the end was proclaimed and here we are today and modern prophets speak of what the old prophets said. So is the “END” near? Well, it’s closer than it was yesterday or 2000 or 3000 years ago.

“Thus saith the LORD,” is tacked on as if to say it WILL happen, it is a sure thing and there is no negotiation about it.

3 I will consume man and beast; I will consume the fowls of the heaven, and the fishes of the sea, and the stumbling blocks with the wicked: and I will cut off man from off the land, saith the LORD.

Man, animals, plants and material things, all will be no more, from the heavens to the sea depths and everything in between, men along with their idols (stumbling blocks) whether fictitious gods, or wealth, power or fame; it will all go into the flaming trash heap.

God is not a frustrated parent who gives empty threats, He seeing the beginning from the end all at once has a set future date in stone when it all will go down.

Hosea 4:3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

4 I will also stretch out mine hand upon Judah, and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and I will cut off the remnant of Baal from this place, and the name of the Chemarims with the priests;

When the countdown occurs, Judah and Jerusalem will not be exempt from the cleansing, however as Noah and his family were safe, hidden in the Ark, so too will a remnant during this time be hidden away and protected. This is the very definition of Zephaniah’s name “YHWH has hidden.”

Though Jerusalem is the Holy City, the apple of God’s eye (Deut. 32:10; Psalm 17:8; Prov. 7:2), nonetheless it too will be infected with the blight of idolatry, paganism and immorality, as it is was in the days of the evil king Manasseh and Amon; just as it was further back in the days of days of Noah.

Matt. 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

If we can extract a sod level insight from Zephaniah 1:4 I’d say that this tells me that in the time to come Christianity of the modern day will lose its appeal and decline. Even now churches are closing faster than ever. Where I live you can drive 20 miles and count approximately 5-8 churches are boarded up and sit empty! Many who use to attend church are finding alternative forms of spirituality.

“Chemarims” means idolatry persists, implying corrupt Levites, like Eli’s sons in I Samuel 1-3. Likewise, to continue on with the shallow sod level adaptation, chemarims can be the money hungry charlatans who call themselves “Evangelists” whether on a circuit, TV, or Radio peddle their perverted doctrine for a price. Nothing but self-help, new age elixir, sprinkled with “Jesus.”

In the end, no one will remember or call to mind the wealth, health and prosperity preachers. Like wet cotton candy the sicky sweet fluffy doctrine will all melt away with the cold, rock solid truth.

Friday, October 26, 2018

The Pre-Adamic Earth Part II

Jeremiah 4:24-27 is yet another passage referring to the pre-Adamic earth.

23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

In verse 234 we see the same verbiage and Hebrew words as in Genesis 1:1-2. There was never a time that the earth was utterly obliterated and was obscured in darkness except on this pre-Adamic world.
Verse 24, prior to the apparent pre-Adamic global flood, the destruction of the pre-Adamic earth began with (according to the Hebrew) the mountains trembled and crumbled and became light, or shall we say, lost gravity or exploded, flying (moved lightly) through the air!

In verse 25 there was no Adam, no man, meaning all the pre-Adamic humanoid beings were destroyed. As well as the birds, they couldn’t even escape this cataclysm. This could not have been Noah’s global flood, because eight humans survived that as well as birds and other animals on the ark.

We see in verse 26-27 that the pre-Adamic world was an Eden, a fruitful place, as discussed in Ezekiel 28:13 and thus the reason God wanted Adam and Eve and Noah’s family to be fruitful and multiply and RE-plenish the earth (Gen. 1:28, 9:1). The pre-Adamic world had inhabited cities that were broken down, Hebraically meaning a wasted desolate ruin.

Verse 27b implies the re-creation of Genesis 1:3-2:25 by saying, “yet will I not make a full end.”

Looking at the context and duel meaning of prophecies, as well as the Hebrew wording, one is hard pressed to come up with another interpretation that is so plain and fits.

God is omniscient and gave His creation free will, meaning He knew Hellel, the pre-Adamites, and the Divine Council would rebel and yet He had a master plan for man, even before Genesis 1:1.

 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. – Acts 15:18

The Greek word for “world” is “aion,” meaning, “eternity,” so God has a master plan for mankind since eternity past, even before the pre-Adamic earth or even this one was created.

That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. – Matt. 13:35

The word, “foundation,” has two equal and opposite meanings in the Greek, “to lay” and “to overthrow.” The foundations of the earth were “laid” in Genesis 1:1 and was thus “overthrown” in Genesis 1:2 and God rebuilt, if you will, on top of the foundation that was already laid in Genesis 1:1.

The word “world,” here in the Greek does not mean age, time, or social system. It is the word “kosmos,” where we get the word, “cosmos” from, meaning the whole sum of the universe i.e. the created order.

The same Greek word for “foundation,” and “world,” is also used in Matthew 25:34, Luke 11:50, John 17:24 and Hebrews 1:10. The Apostle Paul and John the Revelator too used the Greek wording of Yeshua (Jesus) in Ephesians 1:4, Revelation 13:8, and 17:8. In Luke 21:32, “this generation,” can also mean “race,” by implication, Yeshua is saying there has been more than one humanoid race (the pre-Adamites) and this present human race will not pass away (like the pre-Adamites did) until prophecy is fulfilled.

II Peter 3:5-13
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

This passage has been used by Pre-Adamite proponents to say Peter here is referring to the pre-Adamic world. However, it seems pretty clear to me in the English and the Greek that this is referring to the Noahtic flood and it takes one to make great liberal use of the Greek to make it seem as if it’s speaking of a pre-Adamic flood. But what would be the point of referring to the pre-Adamic flood, seeing as we don’t know any specifics regarding the pre-Adamite people, or if there was any redemptive plan offered to the pre-Adamites as none survived? And no Scripture records such a plan. The pre-Adamites and its age have little relevance to people of today and this world. However, the Noahtic flood would have great relevance seeing as we are the survivors of that flood, being descendants of Noah’s three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth.
Notice the wording in verse 5 regarding the “earth standing out of the water and in the water.” To me, this speaks of the hyperbaric chamber the earth of Noah’s time was surrounded in by the separating of waters below from the waters above in Genesis 1:6-8.
The only possible hint of a pre-Adamic world in this passage could be to hone in on the phrase, “the heavens were of old,” alluding to the pre-Adamic heavens of Genesis 1:1. The phrase makes it seem that the heavens are older than this re-created earth. Which they are and in verse 8 which one could take as the gap between Genesis 1:2 and Genesis 1:3, where the pre-Adamic earth was destroyed and sat in utter ruin for an undisclosed amount of time, which could have been thousands upon thousands of years, we simply don’t and can’t know.

As I brought up earlier, because Peter here refers to the eventual destruction of this world by fire (v.10-13), the principle of Torah being, anything corrupt and unclean has two chances to be cleansed by water and a third time must be a purge by fire (Lev. 13:47-59). So too the earth was twice cleansed by the waters of the Luciferian (pre-Adamic) flood and the Noahtic flood and God, honoring His own Laws, must now purge this world, as Peter said, by fire.

I believe Genesis 1:1-2, Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28 and Jeremiah 4 are very plain when speaking of the destruction of the pre-Adamic earth via a flood, coinciding with Hellel’s fall. But to really highlight this, allow me to show a side by side difference between the pre-Adamic flood and the Noahtic flood based on Finis Dake’s observations:


1.    The earth was utterly destroyed and empty and dark (Gen.1:2, Jer. 4:23-26).
2.    No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2-5, Jer. 4:23-26).
3.    There was no day and night (Gen. 1:2-5).
4.    All plant life and foliage was destroyed (Gen. 1:2, 2:5-6, Jer. 4:23-26).
5.    Water consistent (Gen. 1:6-12).
6.    Water gone in a day (Gen. 1:10).
7.    All aquatic life obliterated (Gen.1:2, Jer. 4:23-26).
8.    Avian life obliterated (Gen. 1:2, Jer. 4:23-26).
9.    All animal life, gone (Gen. 1:2, Jer. 4:23-26).
10. Social systems and all pre-Adamites destroyed (Gen. 1:2, Jer. 23-26).
11. Hellel’s (Lucifer’s) rebellion and corruption of pre-Adamites caused the flood (Gen. 1:2, Jer. 4:23-26)
12. Re-creation took place, for all was utterly obliterated (Ge. 1:3-2:25, Isa. 45:18, Eph. 3:11).

1.    The earth was NOT utterly destroyed, empty and dark (Gen. 8:11, 22, Heb. 11:7, I Pet. 3:20).
2.    There was light from heaven (Gen. 8:6-22)
3.    There was day and night (Gen. 8:1-22).
4.    All plant life and foliage was not destroyed (Gen. 8:11, 21, 9:3, 20).
5.    Water evaporated (Gen. 8:1-14).
6.    It took months for the flood waters to go down (Gen. 8:1-14)
7.    Aquatic life survived (Gen. 1:20-23, 6:18-22).
8.    Avian life survived (Gen. 6:20, 8:7-17).
9.    Pairs of all animals survived (Gen. 6:20, 8:17, 9:2-4, 10-16).
10. Social system preserved through Noah and his family (Gen. 8:15-22, 9:1-16, I Pet. 3:20).
11. Sin of mankind and the angelic race cohabitating with human kind caused the Noahtic flood (Gen. 6:1-8:22, 9:1-16).
12. Noah’s family and the animal kingdom was preserved on the ark and there was no need for God to create again (Gen. 6:18-8:22, 9:1-16).

As you can see one can’t help but see two worlds and two floods. Again allow me to reiterate that believing or not believing this teaching has absolutely no bearing or consequence upon ones faith and salvation. As fantastical as this teaching may be and how it goes against the grain of conventional modern Christian theology, I do not want to dismiss something because simply because I was never taught this in Sunday school or in Bible College or that no big name theologians believe this. If the Bible says it or teaches it, I want to obey and believe it regardless of who does or doesn’t. There are many things I now believe that my peers and contemporaries do not believe such as the relevance and applicability of Torah (Mosaic Law) today, the fallen angels cohabitating with human women to create the Nephilim; angelic-human hybrid, that the gifts of the Spirit still being active and in operation today, etc. And I believe these things because I searched the Scriptures for myself and went by what the Hebrew and the Greek say and not by what some religious intellectual or minister says or believes. Even the great Apostle Paul told people not to take his word alone for things and praised them when they put his words against the Scriptures themselves.
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. –Acts 17:11

Don’t dismiss something simply because it’s new or strange to you or because others don’t teach or believe it.

Thursday, October 25, 2018

The Pre-Adamic Earth Part I

The Pre-Adamic Earth
R. Yehudah ben Shomeyr
(Kris Shoemaker)

A controversial topic indeed; one of great fascination and interest but not one of major doctrinal concern or importance in regards to soteriology (salvation) or any other important doctrine for that matter. So really, it doesn’t matter what one believes regarding this topic, but I can’t help but to be convinced of this Pre-Adamic Earth due to the wording of the Hebrew texts.
Come with me as we explore this fascinating, yet little discussed and even, for some, taboo topic.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. – Gen. 1:1-2 (KJV)

This is the origin of everything, God created the various heavens and the earth. The earth became a chaotic desolation, indistinguishable and a dark obscurity was down upon the surface of the depths and the Spirit of God brooded over the surface of the waters.

The word, “create” in verse one is the Hebrew word “bara,” meaning, to create and form. The implication of the Hebrew is to create out of nothing with intelligent design.
The word “was” in verse 2 means, “to become.”
“Form” in Hebrew is “tohu” meaning; desolate, worthless, empty, chaotic, deserted, nothing, unreality. The word “void,” is “bohu” in the Hebrew and it means; empty, an undistinguishable ruin.

The word, “darkness” means; obscurity, misery, night, dusk. The word, “upon” in Hebrew has a meaning of pressing downward or against.
If the earth was not originally created desolate, then it must have been created and later became desolate. Even the English verb “was” proves that it had to become desolate before it could be desolate.
God only creates perfection, so the first earth had to be created perfect, complete, whole and habitable before it could be rendered a desolate, chaotic ruin.

For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else. – Isa. 45:18

It had to first be full of knowledge and light before it could become an obscure nothingness.
To break down Genesis 1:2 and throwing in all the Hebraic implications of the language, you get something like this:

“This planet earth that was, was snuffed out of existence and it became a chaotic, desolate place of undistinguishable ruin and unreality and was left in dark, unknown, miserable obscurity that was uninhabitable and this chaos oppressed the surface of the watery abyss and God’s Breath breezed all over the watery flooded earth.”

Let us look quickly at Genesis 1:28:

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

The word, “replenish” in Hebrew both means, “To be at an end, expire” and to “fill and be fulfilled, to replenish.” The implication is very clear. The first pre-Adamic earth was expired, put to an end and the re-created earth was to be replenished and filled as it (the first pre-Adamic earth) was plentiful prior to its watery destruction. This further hints that it was also inhabited by reproducing animal and humanoid life!

Genesis 1:1-2 Hebraically indicates without a doubt that there was a pre-Adamic earth created prior to the literal six day recreated one that we live on now.

All we know for certain from the Hebrew is that it was created and for some reason utterly destroyed and made uninhabitable.

What we DON’T know from these first two verses of Genesis chapter one is:
·       When the Pre-Adamic earth was created, or how long ago it was created.
·       How long it existed prior to its destruction and watery obliterated state
·       Why it was destroyed and…

·       Who or what, if anyone or anything inhabited it

This may cause some to champion the marriage of modern atheistic science and creationism of an earth that is billions upon billions of years old. And maybe the earth is that old, but it would not be possible to know scientifically because the Hebrew is clear that whatever was on this pre-Adamic earth, whether, humanoids, animals, technology and civilizations was utterly destroyed, leaving behind absolutely no trace evidence, thus no artifacts or fossils would exist to be found.

Sure, the elements are there, but in their raw and basic form and you may dig up ancient carbon or sodium but you wouldn’t be able to tell if it was once a pre-Adamic humanoid, animal, plant or chair for that matter.

These two verses between Genesis 1:1-2 and verse 3 are known to theologians as the Gap Theory, and is named such because there was a creative gap between Genesis 1:2 and Genesis 1:3. Again, the time span of this obvious gap is unknown between the first pre-Adamic earth and the recreation of this present earth we live on now.

Many scholars believe that the events that fill this gap is the angelic, Luciferian rebellion in heaven. So far we only have canonical Scriptures to go one regarding the details of the pre-Adamic earth, for Jasher, Jubilees and Enoch and such apocryphal and psuedopigraphal literature start with creation and the subsequent fall of a third of the angelic heavenly hosts.

Interestingly enough, if there were indeed two world-wide floods; the Luciferian (pre-Adamic) and Noahtic flood that destroyed the earth and according to Peter (II Peter 3:3-13) this one will be destroyed by fire. It fits the pattern in the Torah, that when something has been corrupted, tainted and made unclean, one attempts to twice cleanse it by water, and if that doesn’t work it must be cleansed by fire.

47 The garment also that the plague of leprosy is in, whether it be a woollen garment, or a linen garment;
48 Whether it be in the warp, or woof; of linen, or of woollen; whether in a skin, or in any thing made of skin;
49 And if the plague be greenish or reddish in the garment, or in the skin, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin; it is a plague of leprosy, and shall be shewed unto the priest:
50 And the priest shall look upon the plague, and shut up it that hath the plague seven days:
51 And he shall look on the plague on the seventh day: if the plague be spread in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in a skin, or in any work that is made of skin; the plague is a fretting leprosy; it is unclean.
52 He shall therefore burn that garment, whether warp or woof, in woollen or in linen, or any thing of skin, wherein the plague is: for it is a fretting leprosy; it shall be burnt in the fire.
53 And if the priest shall look, and, behold, the plague be not spread in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin;
54 Then the priest shall command that they wash the thing wherein the plague is, and he shall shut it up seven days more:
55 And the priest shall look on the plague, after that it is washed: and, behold, if the plague have not changed his colour, and the plague be not spread; it is unclean; thou shalt burn it in the fire; it is fret inward, whether it be bare within or without.
56 And if the priest look, and, behold, the plague be somewhat dark after the washing of it; then he shall rend it out of the garment, or out of the skin, or out of the warp, or out of the woof:
57 And if it appear still in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin; it is a spreading plague: thou shalt burn that wherein the plague is with fire.
58 And the garment, either warp, or woof, or whatsoever thing of skin it be, which thou shalt wash, if the plague be departed from them, then it shall be washed the second time, and shall be clean.
59 This is the law of the plague of leprosy in a garment of woollen or linen, either in the warp, or woof, or any thing of skins, to pronounce it clean, or to pronounce it unclean. – Lev. 13:47-59

There are other passages in the Tanak (Old Testament Scriptures) that speak of the pre-Adamic earth and its destruction.

Isaiah 14:12-18:

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

In Scripture and Hebraic Hermeneutics a passage can have up to four meanings; Literal, Allusions, Applicable and Mystical and or Spiritual. This is why a passage such as Isaiah 9:6 can be talking about a prophesied earthy king as well as a future divine Messiah. In much the same way, Isaiah 14:12-18 speaks of the king of Babylon and likening him to Hellel (Lucifer), also known as the fallen angel we call Satan or the Devil.
This passage, if read carefully with the Hebrew taken into consideration, and if one believes that the angelic rebellion took place between Genesis 1:2 and 3 then this means that the angel Hellel (Lucifer) was cast out of heaven where God resides, down to the pre-Adamic earth where apparently nations of humanoid beings lived and existed.

 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! – Isa. 14:12

Fallen = Naphal, means; “to fall, be prostrate, droop, to be born, to fall away, sink to be overthrown, to be thrown or cast down.”

By this word we see Hellel (Lucifer) was created, “born” in heaven (Ezk. 28:14-15), the realm where God resides, fell away (rebelled), was subdued (prostrated) and kicked out of heaven and cast down to the pre-Adamic earth. The word “ground” is the same as “earth” in Genesis 1:1.

The word for “nations” is “goy” and it means; “inhabitant, people, populace, tribes,” and of course, “nations,” implying humanoid, non-angelic inhabitants.
The word “son,” is “ben,” in Hebrew and it could mean and literal or figurative son and thus we establish the angels are figurative sons of God (Gen. 6:1-2, Job 1:6-7, 2:1-2).

Isaiah 14:13 “hast said,” in Hebrew is to angrily huff with ones nostrils.
“Ascend,” means to mount and rise up, to be lifted up or to be exalted. This implies that Hellel (Lucifer) was cast down to the pre-Adamic earth and planned a coup de ta against Adonai, God in Heaven. “My Throne,” is in Hebrew a royal throne, implying that Hellel (Lucifer) had a seat of power and ruled the pre-Adamic earth, and he intended to overthrow God and rule heaven as well.

“Above the stars of God,” in Hebrew implies that he intended to rule over and command the princes (angels) of God also, the ones who didn’t rebel with him. In Daniel 10:13 angels are referred to as princes.

“I will sit also upon the mount of the coronations in the sides of the north,” imply Hebraically that he also intended to rule over God’s Divine Council which is not God, nor human, nor angels but other divine, heavenly created entities who had godlike powers and capabilities, lesser Elohim (gods), who also later rebelled against God, post Babel, after God had given them the responsibility to govern the 70 nations and report back to Him. They rebelled against God and became pagan deities to the people, such as Baal, Molech, Marduke, Dagon, Ishtar, Tammuz, and later Allah, Vishnu, Shiva, Zeus, Odin, etc. Hellel (Lucifer) means for his rule and dominion to encompass the furthest fringes and obscure reaches of God’s kingdom.

Psalm 82:1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

For further study on the Divine Council please see Dr. Michael Heiser’s work “the Unseen Realm” or visit

Isaiah 14:14 “will be like,” tells us that Hellel (Lucifer) himself knows and admits that he is a finite, limited created being and not infinite, omniscient, omnipotent or omnipresent like YHWH, but will, at best, resemble, be as close as possible as he can be to God most High.
Isiah 14:15 “hell” is “sheol” in Hebrew and means; “depth, abyss, netherworld, realm of the dead, subterranean.” “Pit,” means; “hole, cistern, dungeon, grave.”
For the King of Babylon it meant his death. For Hellel (Lucifer) it meant he will lose his power, rulership and authority over the pre-Adamic earth. On the one hand, hinting at the pre-Adamic watery destruction and on the other, hinting of an ultimate end of Satan mentioned in Matt. 25:41 and Rev. 20:10

 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Isaiah 14:16-17, these verses imply as did verses 12-13 that the pre-Adamic world was inhabited and has a civilization of nations and kingdoms that Hellel (Lucifer) corrupted and turned against Adonai, God. Perhaps along with the fallen angels, Hellel (Lucifer) mounted a rebellion with the humanoid inhabitants of the pre-Adamic world, like unto the rebellion of man we read in Gen. 11:1-9 in the account of the tower of Babel.
In verse 16 the word “man,” is not “Adam” meaning, “human,” but simply meaning a male or masculine persona, meaning Hellel (Lucifer) is a masculine spiritual entity. 
Verse 17 implies the reason that the pre-Adamic earth was utterly obliterated. Hellel (Lucifer) corrupted and turned the inhabitants against Adonai their creator and rebelled.

We see in verse 18 the implication that the pre-Adamic kingdoms were once something to behold, “Glory,” means they once had honor and esteem, “everyone,” is the Hebrew word, “ish,” also meaning “man” or “husband,” implying they were human-like and each kingdom was unique in culture and tradition.

Verses 19-20 is talking about a family burial plot, saying the King of Babylon will not be buried with honor and for Hellel (Lucifer) it implies he is immortal and will exist for all eternity in an eternal punishment of the lake of fire (Matt. 25:41, Rev. 20:10).

It is theorized that because of some of the fallen angels cohabitated with women (Gen. 6:1-7) and were punished and chained (Jude 1:6) and that some of what we call demons or unclean spirits or familiar spirits are not just the remaining fallen angels but the disembodied spirits of these fallen pre-Adamic people. Because seeing as these pre-Adamic spirits no longer have a body, they desire to possess others in order to feel, to experience and fulfill their lustful and sinful desires such as; murder, gluttony, sexual perversions and the like. But again it is only speculation based on these passages and cannot be definitively proven one the basis of canonical Scriptures alone.

Ezekiel 28:11-17 is another passage used to support the pre-Adamic earth.

11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

The prophecy is against the king of Tyre and likens him to the fallen angel Hellel (Lucifer). Hellel was a perfect, wise, beautiful Cherub class angel, which meant he was a Throne Guardian angel of YHWH, God.

In verse 12, the word “perfect,” does not mean that he was perfect in the western sense of the word, but meant that he was complete, the total package if you will.

Verse 13 mentions Eden. If we are to understand the fall of Hellel to be between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, we must understand just as there is a Jerusalem in Israel today, there will be a New Jerusalem on the New Earth (II Pet. 3:3-13, Rev. 2:1). Thus there was a pre-Adamic Eden on earth just as there was one on this earth (Gen. 2:8). The name Eden means a pleasurable, fruitful, well-watered place in the Aramaic language.
This passage would imply that Adonai, God may have given Hellel (seeing as he was wise), dominion over the pre-Adamic earth, seeing as Eden was in the East (Gen. 2:8) and Hellel was called the son of the morning (Isa. 14:12) and the sun rises in the east.
If this is so, some theorize that the angelic race ruled and inhabited the solar system and after the Luciferian angelic rebellion, Mars became uninhabitable and the proposed planet which is now an asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter was destroyed; but again, this is nothing more than tantalizing speculation and cannot be proven by canonical Scripture. Perhaps a third of all angels; 1/3 inhabited the pre-Adamic earth, 1/3 inhabited Mars and 1/3 inhabited the planet that is now our solar systems asteroid belt, who knows?

Verse 13 would also suggest that Hellel, or his outfit was colorful, jeweled and decked with bells and chimes and or he was a masterful musician. Seeing as powerful and corrupt and sometimes overtly satanic the music industry is; this may very well be the case.

The Hebrew word in verse 14 for “anointed,” is our word, “messiah,” meaning he was called and groomed to be a Throne Guardian of Adonai, God. He was to be an angelic guard or attendant to God at His Throne. “That covereth,” further solidifying his place as a Throne Guardian angel, because the same verbiage is used when discussing the imagery of the cherubim that spreads its wings over the Ark of the Covenant, which has been referred to as God’s Throne on earth.

“Walking up and down the stones of fire on the holy mountain of God,” suggests Hellel served and had access to not only God’s Throne room, but His Divine Council Chambers (Psa. 82:1). “Stones of fire,” in Hebrew is, “Fiery pillars,” implying when connected to other passages, “Divine beings,” as lesser Elohim (gods) as mentioned in Psalm 82:1.

Verse 15 tells us that he apparently served YHWH, God and the Divine Council well, ruled the pre-Adamic earth well, until iniquity or lawlessness, perversity and depravity was found in him. According to Ezekiel 28:17 and Isaiah 14:13, it was jealous pride that was the iniquity.

We see in verse 16a that in the Hebrew, by “thy merchandise” planned or trafficked by propaganda, a deceptive, underhanded and violent coup of Heaven to dethrone YHWH, God and His Divine Council.

The later part of verse 16 (b) lets us know Hellel was stripped and demoted of his rank and position, because he became polluted and perverted (the word “profane” in the KJV) and the Hebrew also implies sexual deviancy. Perhaps he was cohabitating with the pre-Adamic race as we see the fallen angels do in Gen. 6:1-4? Thus was kicked out of the Divine Throne Room and Council Chambers as well as heaven, (v.17) down to the pre-Adamic earth. Verse 17 again suggests a pre-Adamic civilization with kingdoms and nations.