Wednesday, September 5, 2018

The Obstinancy of Obadiah 1:4-10


4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Talk about an ultimatum that says, “Your better off not trying!” I can’t help but be reminded of satans fall from the heights.

Isa. 14:12-15 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Amos 9:2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes? 6 How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!

(How thou art cut off!) is better understood in today’s language, “Oh how you would be ruined!” Thieves in their haste to grab valuables and leave undetected, usually leave things behind, but the pilferers of judgment unleashed on Edom will be so thorough so as to leave nothing behind.

The Stones Tanak lets us know that, “The prophet describes the disaster that will befall Edom/Esau. Ordinary robbers leave incidentals and gleanings behind, but Edom will be stripped bare, and betrayed by her allies.”


The Full Life Study Bible says, “The Edomites had made it a practice to plunder other people, robbing and killing them. Now they would experience the same thing, for God would bring another nation against them.”

Matt. 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.


This speaks of the betrayal of Edom by her neighbors; “Divine Karma” as I like to call it. I am referring to the Golden Rule.

One interesting principle that has made its way around the globe among virtually every people group of the earth is what Christianity has termed “The Golden Rule”

“Do to others as you would have them do to you” – Yeshua, Matthew 7:12

Yeshua didn’t make this up; he learned this from Rabbi’s and sages growing up. For a Sage around the same time who was the founder of one of two schools of Jewish thought named Hillel is recorded as saying in the Talmud, the compendium of Jewish Law:

“What is hateful to you, do not unto your neighbor. This is the whole Torah; the rest is just commentary. Go and learn it.” Hillel, Talmud, Shabbath 31a

Zoroastrianism, the original Persian religion says: “Do not do unto others whatever is injurious to yourself.” Shayast-naShayast 13.29

Now The Jews were once subject to King Cyrus who was good to the Jewish People, perhaps that is were they picked this concept up.

The other Abrahamic religion of Islam says: “Not one of you truly believes until you wish for others what you wish for yourself.” Muhammad, Hadith

Let us examine the Eastern Asian religions and what they have to say about the Golden Rule:

Buddhism: “Treat not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.” Buddha, Udana-Varga 5.18

Confucianism: “One word which sums up the basis of all good conduct… loving kindness. Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself.” Confucius, Analects 15.23

Hinduism: “This is the sum of duty, do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you.” Mahabharata 5:1517

Jainism: “One should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be treated.” Mahavira, Sutrakritanga 1.11.33

Sikhism: “I am a stranger to no one; and no one is a stranger to me. Indeed, I am a friend to all.” Guru Granth Sahib, p.1299

Taoism: “Regard your neighbor’s gain as your own gain and your neighbor’s loss as your own loss.” Lao Tzu, T’ai Shang Kan Ying P’ien, 213-218

Even the modern religious movements have picked up on this concept.

Baha’I Faith: “Lay not on any soul a load that you would not wish to be laid upon you, and desire not for anyone the things you would not desire for yourself.” Baha’u”llah, Gleanings

Unitarianism: “We affirm and promote respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are apart.” Unitarian principle

Native American Spirituality too has a way of putting it.

“We are as much alive as we keep the earth alive.” Chief Dan George

Even in blatantly pagan religions such as Wicca have what is called the three fold law in that what ever you do to someone else will be done back upon you three fold; like unto the Karma of Eastern religions. This meshes well with the golden rule.

Even in Greek Philosophy the Golden Rule has found a place: "No act of kindness, however small, is ever wasted." Aesop

The obvious exception would be Satanism which Anton Levye states in the Satanic Bible: “Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law.”

To be honest, the Golden Rule (Now don’t stone me for saying this) like unto the Rule of Selfishness of Satanism, is indeed selfish too, but a selfishness that if observed is benefit to everyone. In other words the way I look out for “number one” is by looking out for the “other guy”.

This principle is engrained with in us because we are fallen selfish creatures. The Golden Rule is a type of Self Preservation and Self Preservation is what evolutionist calls a “Primal Instinct”. Anyone, from any people group who sat and thought would come to the conclusion perhaps on seeing two people do each other wrong in some way might say to themselves: “You know I wouldn’t do that to a person, because I wouldn’t want it done to me!”

I am in no way an Ecumenical Interfaith type of guy, although I do have friends from various religions, but it is foolish to try to deny that there are no universal common principles in virtually every faith. And grain of the truth which lies within each culture; which lends to the possibility of a pagan culture to come to the truth. Indeed, it is an ingenious plan of the evil one to hide truth in plain sight, yet disguised in cultural paganism that if welded correctly will be the double edged sword that pierces the Adversary.

What Edom did to the peoples that surrounded them and how they treated them would be dished out and returned in kind to Edom.

“Esau naively failed to realize that these dangers were imminent.” – Stones Tanak

8 Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

Every people have their intelligencia, their strategist, their think tank, their wise men. One who could see what’s coming around the bend. Even Israel had their own wise men.

I Chron. 12:32 And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do; the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment.

Edom’s wise men will be blindsided and won’t know what hit them. “That day” is an idiom for the day of allotted judgment, usually an idiom for Yom Kippur the Day of Atonements which was also the Day of Judgment.



9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.

Teman was an important and mighty city in southern Edom and may have been the location of a major training facility for Edom’s army. Teman here is obviously referring to Edomite military mighty and how when their judgment comes their armies will be decimated.

10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

Why this impending judgment? Because of their persecution of Israel.

 “Violence” in the Hebrew in this verse implies violent, unjust and unwarranted cruelty which ends in disgrace.

And just as Edom has disgraced Jacob so too will Edom be disgraced in turn, for the word shame in this verse also implies disgrace. It says such disgrace and shame will cover them so much that it will hide them, implying that their name will become a definition for shame and will be slot as a people to the annuls of history. Even today there is a big controversy of who is the modern day Edomites. Some say it’s the Muslims, some say the Arabs, some say they no longer exist.

The Full Life Study Bible comments, “Obadiah prophecies that the Edomites would be completely destroyed and because of their violent cruelty (cf. vv. 16, 18), whereas Judah would be restored and God’s kingdom would prevail (vv.17, 19, 21). In 582 B.C., four years after Jerusalem was destroyed by the Babylonians and forced to live in southern Judah. In A.D. 70, after the destruction of Jerusalem by Rome, they were never heard from again.”

The Key Word Study Bible adds regarding vv.10-14, “These verses may not refer to one specific instance, but rather to a prophesy of future judgments of God on Edom because of the evil he committed against his brother, Israel.”